Obama wins Peace Prize.

Frikki · October 9, 2009, 05:25 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm

Not that I don´t like this guy, but has he done that much to advance the cause of peace in the last 10 months?

Tammuz · October 9, 2009, 05:34 AM

I'm baffled as well. From what I knew, some Chinese dissidents were high on the list, and Obama barely on the map.

Yes, what has he done really, except holding speeches in Cairo and somewhere in Germany?

general_koffi · October 9, 2009, 05:50 AM

Morgan Tsvangirai should have got it.

I don't see what Obama has done to deserve it.

Yggdrasill · October 9, 2009, 06:12 AM

I found it a bit odd too. They should have picked someone with a more established past of advancing peace. Obama could well deserve a peace price in a few years, but this is premature.

general_koffi · October 9, 2009, 06:13 AM

Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but it seems more likely that the war in Afghanistan will only escalate with him in office, and then the folks in Oslo will have pie on their faces.

Tammuz · October 9, 2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by general_koffi

Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but it seems more likely that the war in Afghanistan will only escalate with him in office, and then the folks in Oslo will have pie on their faces.

Well, the Oslo folks gave Arafat the Peace Prize as well, so it wouldn't be the first time.

mopc · October 9, 2009, 06:21 AM

Well Al Gore got one.

And Gandhi never got one.

Obama is a good guy and all, but this is PATHETIC. Completely depletes the award of meaning and there are probably hundreds of people far more in need of the fame of a Nobel Prize for their fight.

Im sorry but the Nobel Peace prize commission has just destroyed itself.

general_koffi · October 9, 2009, 06:21 AM

De Klerk also got it, but as insidious as that man was, at least he did do a lot of work for peace... And it would have seemed a bit funny to give it to Mandela, and not him, even if Mandela was a lot more deserving.

Although, like Gorbechev, I doubt De Klerk really intended for his reforms to go as far as they did.

Bloodnf · October 9, 2009, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Frikki

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm

Not that I don´t like this guy, but has he done that much to advance the cause of peace in the last 10 months?

No.

Blackclaw · October 9, 2009, 06:42 AM

Obama hasn't really had the chance to advance the cause of peace yet so I really don't get this.

I am sure however, that US conservative commentators will jump all over it.

general_koffi · October 9, 2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackclaw

Obama hasn't really had the chance to advance the cause of peace yet so I really don't get this.

I am sure however, that US conservative commentators will jump all over it.

And they'll actually have a point for a change...

Think they rigged it to discredit him?

Random Evil Guy · October 9, 2009, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mopc

Im sorry but the Nobel Peace prize commission has just destroyed itself.

no, it hasn't. people said the same things over and over again in the past, yet here those same people are back whining...

Yggdrasill · October 9, 2009, 06:53 AM

After thinking about it for a bit, what Obama should do is decline the award. With a statement along the lines of: "Thank you for considering my efforts for peace to be deserving of such an award, but I know there are many individuals and organisations who are more deserving of it than me, so I would prefer it if you give the award to them."

He would come off as humble, but the prestige of the award would still rub off on him somewhat.

Funkytrip · October 9, 2009, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Yggdrasill

After thinking about it for a bit, what Obama should do is decline the award. With a statement along the lines of: "Thank you for considering my efforts for peace to be deserving of such an award, but I know there are many individuals and organisations who are more deserving of it than me, so I would prefer it if you give the award to them."

He would come off as humble, but the prestige of the award would still rub off on him somewhat.

I really, really hope he will do just that.

If he does, I suspect the whole thing was rigged by democrats to enable Obama for such a gesture

If he doesn't I suspect the whole thing was rigged by republicans to discredit Obama and cause a stir

Jayjay · October 9, 2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Yggdrasill

After thinking about it for a bit, what Obama should do is decline the award. With a statement along the lines of: "Thank you for considering my efforts for peace to be deserving of such an award, but I know there are many individuals and organisations who are more deserving of it than me, so I would prefer it if you give the award to them."

He would come off as humble, but the prestige of the award would still rub off on him somewhat.

Actually, it is not possible to decline the nobel prize. Jean-Paul Sartre tried it.

trunks2k · October 9, 2009, 07:16 AM

I agree that Obama doesn't deserve the prize. It seems to be more of a slap in the face to the Bush administration than it is praising Obama.

trunks2k · October 9, 2009, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayjay

Actually, it is not possible to decline the nobel prize. Jean-Paul Sartre tried it.

Even if he can't decline the prize, just attempting to would have the desired effect.

Jayjay · October 9, 2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by trunks2k

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Originally Posted by Jayjay

Actually, it is not possible to decline the nobel prize. Jean-Paul Sartre tried it.

Even if he can't decline the prize, just attempting to would have the desired effect.

Which is what? Appear like a primadonna who tries to object to receiving a prize that he damn well knows he will receive anyway. I suppose donating the prize money to charity would be the best he could do.

JustinFoldsFive · October 9, 2009, 07:38 AM

Where's Limbaugh now? One week ago, he was screaming that the world rejected Obama. Now they give Obama one of the most prestigious international awards.

general_koffi · October 9, 2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinFoldsFive

Where's Limbaugh now? One week ago, he was screaming that the world rejected Obama. Now they give Obama one of the most prestigious international awards.

He'll conveniently forget that and bang on about how discredited the Nobel committee has become, and he won't just be talking out of his ass for a change - not entirely, anyway.

trunks2k · October 9, 2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayjay

Which is what? Appear like a primadonna who tries to object to receiving a prize that he damn well knows he will receive anyway. I suppose donating the prize money to charity would be the best he could do.

Look humble to the world, and quiet down the inevitable rumblings from the right in the US who are going to go on and on about how he didn't deserve it and he should return it.

dog-on · October 9, 2009, 08:19 AM

After 8 years of the last president, I suppose one can see it as a global sigh of relief.

Wymihere · October 9, 2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinFoldsFive

Where's Limbaugh now? One week ago, he was screaming that the world rejected Obama. Now they give Obama one of the most prestigious international awards.

Rush Limbaugh = Douche Windbag

Brian63 · October 9, 2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinFoldsFive

Where's Limbaugh now? One week ago, he was screaming that the world rejected Obama. Now they give Obama one of the most prestigious international awards.

Apparently we were listening at the same time, because those were also my thoughts. general koffi is right also that he will just make it a mark exclusive to the Nobel committee. Of course the rest of the entire world still rejects Obama though, because this other not-corrupt committee rejected him.

Brian

nogods4me · October 9, 2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dog-on

After 8 years of the last president, I suppose one can see it as a global sigh of relief.

Indeed. It is like being the next boyfriend to a woman who has just gotten out of an abusive relationship. No matter what you do, so long as you don't strangle her in her sleep, you are the best guy ever.

October 9, 2009, 05:25 AM	#6134048 / #1
Frikki Veteran Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: Iceland Posts: 907	Obama wins Peace Prize. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm Not that I don´t like this guy, but has he done that much to advance the cause of peace in the last 10 months?

October 9, 2009, 05:34 AM	#6134053 / #2
Tammuz Veteran Member Join Date: September 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 4,035	I'm baffled as well. From what I knew, some Chinese dissidents were high on the list, and Obama barely on the map. Yes, what has he done really, except holding speeches in Cairo and somewhere in Germany?

October 9, 2009, 05:50 AM	#6134062 / #3
general_koffi Veteran Member Join Date: October 2005 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 9,785 James Clark	Morgan Tsvangirai should have got it. I don't see what Obama has done to deserve it.

October 9, 2009, 06:12 AM	#6134077 / #4
Yggdrasill Veteran Join Date: September 2002 Location: Kongsberg, Norway. I'm a: Skeptic Posts: 6,125	I found it a bit odd too. They should have picked someone with a more established past of advancing peace. Obama could well deserve a peace price in a few years, but this is premature.

October 9, 2009, 06:13 AM	#6134079 / #5
general_koffi Veteran Member Join Date: October 2005 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 9,785 James Clark	Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but it seems more likely that the war in Afghanistan will only escalate with him in office, and then the folks in Oslo will have pie on their faces.

October 9, 2009, 06:21 AM	#6134082 / #7
mopc Veteran Member Join Date: January 2005 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Posts: 880	Well Al Gore got one. And Gandhi never got one. Obama is a good guy and all, but this is PATHETIC. Completely depletes the award of meaning and there are probably hundreds of people far more in need of the fame of a Nobel Prize for their fight. Im sorry but the Nobel Peace prize commission has just destroyed itself.

October 9, 2009, 06:21 AM	#6134083 / #8
general_koffi Veteran Member Join Date: October 2005 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 9,785 James Clark	De Klerk also got it, but as insidious as that man was, at least he did do a lot of work for peace... And it would have seemed a bit funny to give it to Mandela, and not him, even if Mandela was a lot more deserving. Although, like Gorbechev, I doubt De Klerk really intended for his reforms to go as far as they did.

October 9, 2009, 06:42 AM	#6134092 / #10
Blackclaw Veteran Member Join Date: March 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,919	Obama hasn't really had the chance to advance the cause of peace yet so I really don't get this. I am sure however, that US conservative commentators will jump all over it.

October 9, 2009, 06:53 AM	#6134096 / #13
Yggdrasill Veteran Join Date: September 2002 Location: Kongsberg, Norway. I'm a: Skeptic Posts: 6,125	After thinking about it for a bit, what Obama should do is decline the award. With a statement along the lines of: "Thank you for considering my efforts for peace to be deserving of such an award, but I know there are many individuals and organisations who are more deserving of it than me, so I would prefer it if you give the award to them." He would come off as humble, but the prestige of the award would still rub off on him somewhat.

October 9, 2009, 07:16 AM	#6134113 / #16
trunks2k Veteran Member Join Date: September 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 6,161	I agree that Obama doesn't deserve the prize. It seems to be more of a slap in the face to the Bush administration than it is praising Obama.

October 9, 2009, 07:38 AM	#6134134 / #19
JustinFoldsFive Veteran Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Bethesda Posts: 3,324	Where's Limbaugh now? One week ago, he was screaming that the world rejected Obama. Now they give Obama one of the most prestigious international awards.

October 9, 2009, 08:19 AM	#6134171 / #22
dog-on Veteran Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,090	After 8 years of the last president, I suppose one can see it as a global sigh of relief.