Obama wins Peace Prize. - Page 2

jonatha · October 9, 2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by general_koffi

Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but it seems more likely that the war in Afghanistan will only escalate with him in office, and then the folks in Oslo will have pie on their faces.

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Is that a South African idiom? (US, and I believe British, English would be "egg on their faces")...

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Jimmy Higgins · October 9, 2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by trunks2k

I agree that Obama doesn't deserve the prize. It seems to be more of a slap in the face to the Bush administration than it is praising Obama.

I believe that is it. This is much less a praising of Obama as it is perhaps the first historical slap in the face of Bush.

As has been noted a lot here, Bush really fucked things up. Really, really fucked things up. Obama came in charge and has tried to do an about 180 degree change in attitude, which is very hard to do. Certainly, Obama is not worthy of this award (yet?). But I almost am having a sort of Machivellian viewing of this, just based on how the right-wing will go absolutely potty over it.

Evolutionist · October 9, 2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Right-wing nutbar

When they hand the prize to liberal wackos like Carter, Gore, and Obama but ignore Ronald Reagan who did more for the cause of peace in the 20th century than any other political figure then irrelevant is the only way to describe this once prestigious award.

I'm loving the stir this is causing on right-wing forums...

Xoxarle · October 9, 2009, 08:51 AM

I hope Obama will be able to take time out from planning the escalation of troops into Afghanistan to accept the Peace Prize.

SLD · October 9, 2009, 08:53 AM

It is way too early in his administration to be giving him the peace prize. I wonder if it is an attempt to sway his policies in Afghanistan. If he increases the troop strength as expected, maybe they'll try to rescind it.

I checked the raptureready and theologyweb boards. Sure enough, this is just more proof that Obama's the antichrist! One day the truth will be revealed and he will turn into a giant statue and demand worship.

SLD

Wymihere · October 9, 2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SLD

It is way too early in his administration to be giving him the peace prize. I wonder if it is an attempt to sway his policies in Afghanistan. If he increases the troop strength as expected, maybe they'll try to rescind it.

I checked the raptureready and theologyweb boards. Sure enough, this is just more proof that Obama's the antichrist! One day the truth will be revealed and he will turn into a giant statue and demand worship.

SLD

I think you nailed it. They put the cart before the horse perhaps hoping Obama would now have to tailor his policies in an attempt to earn the prize.
It is also a thinly veiled slap at Bush.

Jimmy Higgins · October 9, 2009, 09:01 AM

I'm pondering whether the Nobel Prize group felt pressured to announce Obama the winner after our preemptive strike on the moon. Don't give us the Olympics, well, we'll take you all with us!

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Originally Posted by Xoxarle

I hope Obama will be able to take time out from planning the escalation of troops into Afghanistan to accept the Peace Prize.

I heard this morning on AM Radio that Obama wanted to Vietnamize Afghanistan. I'm thinking to myself... had this been two years ago, the asshat would have been supporting the Vietnamization of Afghanistan.

I'll say this about Afghanistan, we owe their nation to do the right thing. The heck I know what the "right thing" would be. Simply put, The Clash has our current situation penned in "Should I Stay or Should I Go".

nogods4me · October 9, 2009, 09:19 AM

Ana Marie Cox, a frequent guest on the Maddow show, and liberal blogger/reporter, on the news that Obama won the prize, via Twitter:

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"Apparently Nobel prizes now being awarded to anyone who is not George Bush."

general_koffi · October 9, 2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jonatha

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Originally Posted by general_koffi

Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but it seems more likely that the war in Afghanistan will only escalate with him in office, and then the folks in Oslo will have pie on their faces.

[derail]

Is that a South African idiom? (US, and I believe British, English would be "egg on their faces")...

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Whatever, dude, it's Friday and I'm stoned.

arricchio · October 9, 2009, 09:47 AM

But, but, but... the world rejected Obama when the IOC chose Buenos Aires instead of Chicago. The Druge Report even said so.

Oh my God! Does this mean that the Drudge Report was wrong? I don't think I can stand the shock.

Nice Squirrel · October 9, 2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Xoxarle

I hope Obama will be able to take time out from planning the escalation of troops into Afghanistan to accept the Peace Prize.

Tammuz · October 9, 2009, 09:56 AM

He's Barack Obama (Youtube satire video)

Sai · October 9, 2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackclaw

Obama hasn't really had the chance to advance the cause of peace yet so I really don't get this.

I am sure however, that US conservative commentators will jump all over it.

i guess they will have to if / since the liberal commentators wont.

Jason · October 9, 2009, 09:57 AM

The best comment I've heard so far is: "I hope Obama will be able to take time out from planning the escalation of troops into Afghanistan to accept the Peace Prize" (Xoxarle).

But to be honest, I think it's more of a slap in the face to Bush than anything else.

Or maybe it's satire, referring to the Party's official slogan "War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength" in George Orwell's novel 1984.

I don't know. It's too early for me think this much.

arricchio · October 9, 2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nice Squirrel

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Originally Posted by Xoxarle

I hope Obama will be able to take time out from planning the escalation of troops into Afghanistan to accept the Peace Prize.

Yes, President Obama having to deal with disasters left over from the Bush Administration is terribly funny. Let's all have a good laugh about the torture of detainees, shall we?

Tom Sawyer · October 9, 2009, 10:03 AM

It does seem more than a bit odd to give it to him. As to their reasoning of:

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In its announcement, the Norwegian Nobel Committee hailed Obama's "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

Yes, he's given some good speeches about that, but what exactly has he implemented to back those words up with actions? He's been far more focused on his domestic agenda and hasn't really done a whole lot in those areas.

Granted, he did lead the charge to put the final nail in Bush's coffin and have that asshat's legacy end in ignomy and defeat, which was a win for humanity, but those were mostly self-inflicted wounds that brought that about and Obama really just took the guy who was lying bleeding in the gutter and kicked him in the head a few times.

This is just kind of a head scratcher. I think the Olympics would have been better and give some Brazilian guy the Nobel for something or another.

Tom Sawyer · October 9, 2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by arricchio

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Originally Posted by Nice Squirrel

Yes, President Obama having to deal with disasters left over from the Bush Administration is terribly funny. Let's all have a good laugh about the torture of detainees, shall we?

Heh, heh, heh.

Remember when you put the electrodes on the nuts of those naked guys?

Good times.

Caine · October 9, 2009, 10:09 AM

I think it's a good choice. Gives him a bit of momentum to push for his goals. Better now when it can do some good, than 20 years down the line when it will just be a medal in a presidential library.

Tom Sawyer · October 9, 2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Caine

I think it's a good choice. Gives him a bit of momentum to push for his goals. Better now when it can do some good, than 20 years down the line when it will just be a medal in a presidential library.

But the Nobel Prize is meant to be a recognition of those goals and is a medal to recognize the time that a person has spent pushing for them, not a recognition that he's promised to maybe get around to pushing for them once he's gotten health care, the economy and immigration off his plate.

GenesisNemesis · October 9, 2009, 10:14 AM

He's the Antichrist. That's why he won it.

Tom Sawyer · October 9, 2009, 10:17 AM

I like this comment here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...59824J20091009

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Afghanistan's Taliban mocked the award, saying it was absurd to give it to Obama when he had ordered 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan this year.

"The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won the 'Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'," Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

I didn't realize that they gave out Nobels for that. I think that decision to include that category was a mistake and it isn't the sort of action which should be awarded.

Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that if you're against Obama getting this prize, it now means that you support the Taliban and Islamic terrorists and you hate America.

ksen · October 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by arricchio

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Originally Posted by Nice Squirrel

Yes, President Obama having to deal with disasters left over from the Bush Administration is terribly funny. Let's all have a good laugh about the torture of detainees, shall we?

How has President Obama "dealt with" the issue of torturing detainess other than by making sure nobody really gets held responsible for it?

Vampyroteuthis · October 9, 2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackclaw

Obama hasn't really had the chance to advance the cause of peace yet so I really don't get this.

I am sure however, that US conservative commentators will jump all over it.

This.

seanc · October 9, 2009, 10:28 AM

Well the right-wingers in my office are all outraged, so this must have been a good thing.

Fullmetal Atheist · October 9, 2009, 10:41 AM

Well I guess he has done some things. He signed some good executive orders like the closing of Gitmo (though it is stalled because of Congress), the Army Field manual being the new guide for interrogation at the CIA, and releasing documentation of the torture conducted under the Bush Administration, not to mention shutting it down.

I don't much care if he deserves it or not, either way I'm just glad to see the right pissed off and distracted while the Health Care bills reach the pivotal point of merging.

October 9, 2009, 08:51 AM	#6134201 / #29
Xoxarle Veteran Member Join Date: December 2004 Location: Floriduh Posts: 5,213	I hope Obama will be able to take time out from planning the escalation of troops into Afghanistan to accept the Peace Prize.

October 9, 2009, 08:53 AM	#6134203 / #30
SLD Veteran Member Join Date: February 2001 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 2,450	It is way too early in his administration to be giving him the peace prize. I wonder if it is an attempt to sway his policies in Afghanistan. If he increases the troop strength as expected, maybe they'll try to rescind it. I checked the raptureready and theologyweb boards. Sure enough, this is just more proof that Obama's the antichrist! One day the truth will be revealed and he will turn into a giant statue and demand worship. SLD

October 9, 2009, 09:47 AM	#6134240 / #35
arricchio Veteran Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 642	But, but, but... the world rejected Obama when the IOC chose Buenos Aires instead of Chicago. The Druge Report even said so. Oh my God! Does this mean that the Drudge Report was wrong? I don't think I can stand the shock.

October 9, 2009, 09:56 AM	#6134249 / #37
Tammuz Veteran Member Join Date: September 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 4,035	He's Barack Obama (Youtube satire video)

October 9, 2009, 09:57 AM	#6134251 / #39
Jason Veteran Member Join Date: July 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 581	The best comment I've heard so far is: "I hope Obama will be able to take time out from planning the escalation of troops into Afghanistan to accept the Peace Prize" (Xoxarle). But to be honest, I think it's more of a slap in the face to Bush than anything else. Or maybe it's satire, referring to the Party's official slogan "War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength" in George Orwell's novel 1984. I don't know. It's too early for me think this much.

October 9, 2009, 10:09 AM	#6134264 / #43
Caine Veteran Member Join Date: November 2006 Location: Megaton, Capital Wasteland Posts: 4,701	I think it's a good choice. Gives him a bit of momentum to push for his goals. Better now when it can do some good, than 20 years down the line when it will just be a medal in a presidential library.

October 9, 2009, 10:14 AM	#6134271 / #45
GenesisNemesis Veteran Member Join Date: July 2006 Location: A pale blue oblate sphereoid. Posts: 12,474 I support the Brights!	He's the Antichrist. That's why he won it.

October 9, 2009, 10:28 AM	#6134294 / #49
seanc Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 827	Well the right-wingers in my office are all outraged, so this must have been a good thing.

October 9, 2009, 10:41 AM	#6134313 / #50
Fullmetal Atheist Veteran Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,172	Well I guess he has done some things. He signed some good executive orders like the closing of Gitmo (though it is stalled because of Congress), the Army Field manual being the new guide for interrogation at the CIA, and releasing documentation of the torture conducted under the Bush Administration, not to mention shutting it down. I don't much care if he deserves it or not, either way I'm just glad to see the right pissed off and distracted while the Health Care bills reach the pivotal point of merging.