Ken Hovind on the Ali G Show.

[Fenton Mulley]

You might what to look for this if you have HBO. I saw it last night and it was pretty amusing. Ali G had a roundtable to discuss science and among his guests was none other than Ken Hovind.

Ali asked them where man came from and Dr Joseph Coates (http://www.futurefoundation.org/humanity3000/3000committee.html) started explaining how everything evolved from lower species until Hovind rudely interrupted him saying that evolution was riduclous and "pure religion".
Ali then asked Ken if he believed that we didn't actually come from monkeys and Ken said no and that "monkeys are still having babies so why don't they have another human today?"
Ali then asked him if he's ever eaten a banana. Ken said he did and Ali claimed this was proof that Ken came from monkeys. It got kind of heated after that and Ali told Ken to "speak to the hand because the face wasn't listening."

Ali then took issue with the "homo" in homo sapiens and went in circles with it until finally saying that he wasn't gay,but it's OK with him if Ken Hovind was.

It ended with Ali accusing ken of leaving a floater in his backstage toilet and trying to hide it by covering it with toilet paper.:D

<<I didn't know where to put this,but figured the people here in evolution/creation would enjoy hearing how that a-hole Hovind was hassled.>>

[lpetrich]

Ali G seems a bit too goofy for my taste. Was he trying to pull Kent Hovind's leg?

[BRO3886]

Yes. That's the point of the Ali G character.

[trunks2k]

oh that's priceless! I can just picture it... Damn I wish I had HBO, or lived in the UK so I could watch the endless reruns of Da Ali G show

[Steven Carr]

That would have been wonderful to watch.

Ali G would ask a question that only a moron would think there was a sensible answer to, such as, 'How did Noah get the dinosaurs on the Ark?' or 'How did the kangaroos hop to Australia?', and Hovind would try to answer these questions that any child could see were based on ridiculous beliefs that only a total ignoramus would have.

[Steven Carr]

Originally posted by lpetrich
Ali G seems a bit too goofy for my taste. Was he trying to pull Kent Hovind's leg?

The same Ali G who asked an astronaut what it was like to walk on the Sun?

[ageofreason2000]

That I would like to have seen.

I think Ali G has passed his sell by date, but I was lucky enouggh to see him live a few years ago in the audience for his new show.
When he wasn't doing the show for the cameras he was talking with the audience and he was one funny guy.

The trouble is everybody now knows him so they are ready for the shit he pulls.

Age

[cpickett]

I caught the last couple minutes, I don't generally care for Ali G, but the bit with Kent was hilarious.

[Farren]

We're seeing all the old Ali G shows now in SA. From what my bother tells me we're over a year behinmd. I'll definitely watch out for this one. Sounds hilarious!

[Shpongle]

Man, I would've loved to see that! Too bad no HBO here in Canada, though...

[Alan G]

When Ali G started he was absolutely hilarious, then eventually the celebs realised he was making fun of them and played along and it lost its fun. He then did some trips to America on his show before switching over there.

Best bits from original show:

Asking a priest if Jesus would want "playstation or dreamcast" if he were around today, and pointing out that of course the inn was full "always is at Christmas innit"

He also took piss out of "Dr" Iain Paisley about sectarianism in Northern Ireland which was a sheer joy to watch.

The best one was by far his interview with Tony Benn (prominant old Labour socialist) where he said
"everyones on about the right to work but what about the right not to work" and
"but the miners went on strike, is that not just bein lazy?"

[Marcel]

What I remember best was Hovind trying to smile while he was being accused of "leavin' a floata". He would say: "What are you talking about." And: "I ask you to not raise this subject." SmilingLY!

[Refused]

For your viewing pleasure:

Ali G vs. Kent Hovind (http://www.thewilsonshouse.com/guest/Ali_G_vs_Kent_Hovind.wmv)

- Refused

[Marcel]

Thanks stacks!!
When I get home I will watch it.

Regards,

Marcel.

[Jayjay]

That would have been wonderful to watch.

Ali G would ask a question that only a moron would think there was a sensible answer to, such as, 'How did Noah get the dinosaurs on the Ark?' or 'How did the kangaroos hop to Australia?', and Hovind would try to answer these questions that any child could see were based on ridiculous beliefs that only a total ignoramus would have.
I didn't like it exactly because Ali G didn't ask any questions like that, he just went on and on about the "floater" backstage. What a wasted opportunity.

[mirage]

For your viewing pleasure:

Ali G vs. Kent Hovind (http://www.thewilsonshouse.com/guest/Ali_G_vs_Kent_Hovind.wmv)

- Refused
Fantastic, thanks.

[mirage]

I didn't like it exactly because Ali G didn't ask any questions like that, he just went on and on about the "floater" backstage. What a wasted opportunity.
That's not really the point of the Ali G character. He would never ask pertinent questions about anything, the main joke just being to baffle the guests with how little he understands about anything and shock them with his attitudes.

Sasha Baren Cohen is an extremely intelligent guy, and I'm sure he picked on Hovind in particular because he knows what a pompous idiot he is.

[Joe Meert]

For your viewing pleasure:

Ali G vs. Kent Hovind (http://www.thewilsonshouse.com/guest/Ali_G_vs_Kent_Hovind.wmv)

- Refused

Absolutely priceless!!

Cheers

Joe Meert

[Hawkeye]

*Groan*

Hovind used a variation of the "if we come from monkeys, how come there's still monkeys around?"-argument.

[Moxy]

Man...I had seen this one, but I had no idea that was Hovind on there.

Perhaps a wasted chance, but funny nonetheless.

[MortalWombat]

The same Ali G who asked an astronaut what it was like to walk on the Sun?
Yep. And when the astronaut said that the sun is too hot for astronauts to walk on, Ali G suggested that they do it at night.

[EsoCyn]

For your viewing pleasure:

Ali G vs. Kent Hovind (http://www.thewilsonshouse.com/guest/Ali_G_vs_Kent_Hovind.wmv)

- Refused

The look on Hovind's face was effin' priceless. Sheer bliss.

[Jayjay]

That's not really the point of the Ali G character. He would never ask pertinent questions about anything, the main joke just being to baffle the guests with how little he understands about anything and shock them with his attitudes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Ali G and I know his style. I just think that "shocking" the guests with poop jokes and calling them homos wasn't that funny and didn't fit his style. In my opinion he's much more hilarious when asking innocent questions like "should all the members of the parliament be black?" or "should breast reduction surgeries be illegal?". Extremists like Hovind are a goldmine for that kind of thing.

[telerion]

Yeah, I have this clip on my comp from the Infidel Guy archives.

I thought it was hilarious.

Can a computer calculate 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999991099999999999999999999999999999999999999.89 x
999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999999999.1010109999?

[kenni]

For your viewing pleasure:

Ali G vs. Kent Hovind (http://www.thewilsonshouse.com/guest/Ali_G_vs_Kent_Hovind.wmv)

- RefusedHovind - "Monkeys are still having babies, why don't they have another human today?"

Hovind, 30 seconds later [responding to Ali G's banana 'proof' of evolution] - "I'm surprised at how illogical your question was."

Boom. And another irony meter bites the dust :rolling:

[King of Men]

Ack! Get on with it. That 9999... bit just ain't funny, we get it, already!

[King of Men]

And incidentally, just how stupid are these serious types, anyway, taking Ali G seriously? I mean, they come off just as bad as Hovind.

[cjack]

"He has no technology at all...you can check out his website!"

:notworthy

[Joe Meert]

And incidentally, just how stupid are these serious types, anyway, taking Ali G seriously? I mean, they come off just as bad as Hovind.

JM: Yes, I thought they were funnier than Ali G. "I think the word 'homo' has him confused". In some ways, it almost looked like a set up of Hovind. Hovind literally took it up the ass on that show. I've never seen him at such a loss for words. I especially liked Hovind calling AG's comment on bananas illogical after asking... why don't monkeys have humans?

Cheers

Joe Meert

[Jedi Mind Trick]

I especially liked Hovind calling AG's comment on bananas illogical after asking... why don't monkeys have humans?

Cheers

Joe Meert

Yes, that was priceless.
I thought the segment was hilarious... I've never heard of this AliG character before this thread.

[Marcel]

*Groan*

Hovind used a variation of the "if we come from monkeys, how come there's still monkeys around?"-argument.

When I first heard this argument when I was a youngster, I at first felt scournful sarcasm, then I couldn't believe what I was hearing, I was astonished & realised that it was no use debating with somebody this ignorant. Later, I heard more people using the argument, and I started understanding that the number of stupid people was quite large. But when I heard it last week -- a friend of mine adduced it without blinking an eye, saying that crocodiles still breed crocodiles (I hate this word "still"!) -- I realised that either ignorance is rampant, not only with stupid people, or the argument appeals to a widespread misinterpretation of nature; then I decided to take the argument seriously and discuss it. What else can you do? :rolleyes:

I guess the core of this logical mistake is enshrined in the idea of progress that many people still hold to be true.

[Rudolph]

Ali G, you gotta love him! The beauty is that pompous idiots never seem to notice the obvious about him... that's it's all just a big joke. I can't believe people actually answer his questions. But he was way to successful over here in the uk, and after just one series, he had tomove abroad, becasue everyone realised what he was up to. Sacha Baron Cohen has another alter ego though called Borat, supposedly from khazakstan, who's just as hilarious. Different character to expose the same pompousness in stuck up assholes.

[Marcel]

Sacha Baron Cohen has another alter ego though called Borat, supposedly from khazakstan, who's just as hilarious. Different character to expose the same pompousness in stuck up assholes.


Yeah, it's hilarious, he is a genius. I can't stop laughing while I watch him doing the things he does, and at the same time I feel tense because his guests don't know what he's up to. He can really shock people with his exhibitionist naiveté. Excellent! A friend of mine can't help feeling the shame that Ali should be feeling.

My wife is from Kazakhstan, and after having visited the country a couple of times, I can tell you that his imaginations of Kazakhstan are absolute nonsense. Borat doesn't even look Kazakh, and these words written in Cyrillic letters don't even mean anything.
When Borat went to the States, he once joined baseball players in the dressing room. Then he said, in the shower room, pointing at one nude player's crouch: "Hey! My brother has a similar chram!" Only in Russian do I know such a word; it means 'cathedral'.

Or this one time when Borat went to a new upclass suburb in America, where you could sign up for a house. Borat asks the real estate developer, somewhat hesitantly: "I want to live here, but... my wife is afraid of people with chocolate faces. Will there be people with chocolate faces here?" You can see the mixed emotions in the eyes of the real estate developer when he carefully says: "No, they will not live here."

In other words, it is wonderful, delightful, very intelligent nonsense! :D

[Rudolph]

I met a guy from kazhakstan last year, and only then did I realise the full extent of his piss take! You'd think more people would have caught on with that one. I think he plays the stereotypes so well. I mean he doesn't even look like he comes from any country in the region!

[Avatar]

I was amused that Hovind was gobsmacked...but really what is funny about this guy? To me he seems to drone on and on, playing up a stereotype that has been done to death--the urban idiot. That's funny?

Or am I missing something?

[Prester John]

I think the banana question should be the official riposte to the monkeys are still having babies stupidity. Similar levels of logic.

[Joe Meert]

I was amused that Hovind was gobsmacked...but really what is funny about this guy? To me he seems to drone on and on, playing up a stereotype that has been done to death--the urban idiot. That's funny?

Or am I missing something?


JM: Yes, the fact that supposedly intelligent people did not catch on. I mean the 'check his website' should have given it away.

Cheers

Joe Meert

[jcsd]

ALi G was one of the cleverest comedy chracters created, his pilot show (I remember catching it on late night TV when it was firts aired and being blown away) and his stuff on the 11 O'Clock Show (which incidentally also launched Ricky Gervais's televison career) was pure comedy gold, but by the time he got his own TV series he'd already descended into self-parody. There really are people in the UK just like him.

[mirage]

ALi G was one of the cleverest comedy chracters created, his pilot show (I remember catching it on late night TV when it was firts aired and being blown away) and his stuff on the 11 O'Clock Show (which incidentally also launched Ricky Gervais's televison career) was pure comedy gold, but by the time he got his own TV series he'd already descended into self-parody. There really are people in the UK just like him.
I agree completely. The guy is extremely sharp (he got a first in history at Oxford). It looks pretty stupid, but there is a lot of skill and wit involved in the act. It isn't half as easy as it looks.